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Post by lordpandarus on Jan 15, 2018 20:24:14 GMT -8
I bought some butterflies from an ebay seller based in Costa Rica (package sent in December 2017)
My package never made it out of the country (I checked tracking)
Apparently because of some law changes all parcels he sent out in December are confiscated by the police and he's trying to work out a solution.
Anyone knows more about this?
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Post by Paul K on Jan 15, 2018 22:18:17 GMT -8
I bought some butterflies from an ebay seller based in Costa Rica (package sent in December 2017) My package never made it out of the country (I checked tracking) Apparently because of some law changes all parcels he sent out in December are confiscated by the police and he's trying to work out a solution. Anyone knows more about this? Perhaps export permit was not attached to the parcel. Costa Rican authorities are very strict about collecting and exporting permits. |
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Post by lordpandarus on Jan 16, 2018 0:16:11 GMT -8
That guy has been selling on ebay for years with no negative feedback. He said it was something new
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Post by Paul K on Jan 17, 2018 23:27:33 GMT -8
That guy has been selling on ebay for years with no negative feedback. He said it was something new I rather think it was somebody new I suspect who hasn’t been paid yet or finally respect the laws. There is no such a think as legal trade of insects in Costa Rica unless they are coming from legally registered farms. All collecting and exporting is limited for scientific purpose only. |
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Post by lordpandarus on Jan 19, 2018 16:29:26 GMT -8
That guy only sells ex-pupae butterflies he bred himself so I guess he owns one of these farms
I guess I'll hope for the best
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Post by lordpandarus on May 24, 2018 23:23:03 GMT -8
oh well he refunded me after all these months so he's a pretty honest guy
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Post by papiliotheona on May 28, 2018 6:59:01 GMT -8
In the past decade CR's gone the way of Brazil. After Philip deVries put Costa Rica on the map and made it an international butterfly mecca, the locals decided to bite the hand that was feeding them thinking they'd make more money going the eco-tourism (i.e. NABA) route. Really disgusting.
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Post by lordpandarus on Aug 10, 2018 11:55:22 GMT -8
it sucks they can't even export specimens bred in a farm
And I was accumulating my ebay winnings for a while and I told him to ship at the exact wrong moment. A few days earlier I would have gotten my package.What luck
Had a nice Female Agrias philatelica in there I'll never get another chance of getting
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 0:15:52 GMT -8
Slowly the countries where you can get specimens from are getting less and less, which is ludicrous given the sheer volume of insects in the wild, the authorities are treating us the same as big game hunters.
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Post by miguel on Aug 11, 2018 12:12:45 GMT -8
Then I don´t understand the utility of a butterfly farm,I thought that they were made to provide butterflies to buyers from everywhere,if you cann´t buy anything from them,What is their utility?
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Post by diegolobo on Aug 14, 2018 4:50:06 GMT -8
Butterfly farms sell live leps (more likely chrysalides/cocoons) to zoos and other institutions with butterly houses. I was just at the 2018 IECC (Inverteberates in Education and Conservation Conference) in Tucson, and there was a Costa Rican seller there, although he didn't have stock. Also there was a USDA contact for live permits for institutions.
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Post by lordpandarus on Oct 15, 2018 18:53:00 GMT -8
I can see he still has his ebay store when I look in "collector's Secret" and selling specimens BUT it says in bold letters DOES NOT SHIP TO CANADA and ebay block me from seeing any listings.
it's weird because he ships to US,Europe and Asia. why no Canada?
His previous issues didn't seem country related since a bunch of his parcels got confiscated
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Post by wollastoni on Oct 16, 2018 2:20:51 GMT -8
Maybe a specific Canadian law OR the Canadian customs who do not understand that he is an insect farm and are asking crazy paperwork.
I know this seller and he is indeed an honest guy.
Sometimes it is the only solution for an insect seller to not export to some countries even if it means less turnover.
For example, many European sellers do not ship CITES II species outside of the European Union even if they have import and export CITES permits.
Why ? Because they have to pay some fees, to sign some papers, to meet custom guys in other cities and so on. The smart business decision is to sell them with CITES permits inside the European Union (no other paper than CITES needed).
BTW it will be one issue for British Ornitho collectors soon, due to Brexit (as most legal sellers are French, German).
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Post by lordpandarus on Oct 16, 2018 9:56:51 GMT -8
It was confiscated IN Costa Rica BEFORE leaving the country NOT Canadian customs and affected all his parcels at the time. Also happened to a member from Europe at the same time who contacted me .
So I'm still not sure why he singled out Canada for export ban
Also I never have paper work of any kind in my parcels ..ever .You just have to write "dried insects for scientific use" on the green customs tag.We don't appear to have crazy import laws like the USA and the USFW
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Post by papilio28570 on Oct 20, 2018 21:57:03 GMT -8
His listings now read:
I can't ship in USA, CANADA, CENTRAL-SOUTH AMERCA and JAPAN. (I hope to be able to ship in a very short time)
I ship only in EUROPE, ASIA and CHINA.
I only send the first day of the month, it's therefore strictly necessary to accumulate more orders.
If I do not receive any warning to continue to accumulate, I will ship automatically.
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