Since now advance payments on deliveries of butterflies, moths and beetles to the well-known togolese hunters arround Kpalimé had nearly always the same result :
The parcel arrived - however the quality of the specimens and the data was poor, the rest of payment often small - the disappointment on both sides huge.
They seem to have decided to adopt the tansanian, ugandan, cameroonian etc. system !!!
They seem to be satisfied with a downpayment for shipping.
The case :
All of them suddenly come from "The great North" (as the material from the forest area is meanwhile to be found everywhere cheaper than in Africa) They have all been cheated by the southern hunters and want to deal directly with overseas.
Actually beware of:
DODZI GUIDI, BP 322, Bassar, Togo, Tel 00228 99849722, email address : firstname.lastname@example.org
I will publish this ad in the section classifieds lepidoptera as well to give all our good togolese friends the chance to read it
In fact I have well received a 100 specimens from TOGO (NiSSAHOE FOREST : South West near the border of Guana). I will never know if these species really come from ther or from another country or place. I have to trust him.
Quality is good (90% A1 or A1-, 10% A2 or less). But the problem is the same with every African sellers : only 10 differents species. All really commun.
The price was 100€ so nothing to say.
About speaking with him : he always ask to sell others package. He tells me he can get everything I want. I send him picture and he always answer me OK I can hace it. I still wait this new famous package since 2 month
A friend of mine had more chance with several package with more "good" species and some good coleopteras
Hello everybody..... has any one informations about """PASCAL TELAO3333 from TOGO he said me his locatioon is ""TCHAMBA""" but the money i sent him recently was retired in ""KPALIME"" 350 kms further first time I sen him ""35 €uros""" ( after having a long time many mails between us ) after that he said the ""Tchamba post offuce " could not sent parcel to France because of coronavirus ...... so he told me to send him more 50 €uros to dsend the parcel via ""EMS"" ..I refusedd...: so he said he will keepthe money ....... after thtat he told me to send hiom only """25 €"" (so he tooked the haf part of postage via EMS by himself......
then Iaccepted and sent him 25 €uros ... after that I try to phoen him during 3 days to understand if the parcell gone away to me .......NO response .... after that he sent me a message because his mother was in hspital with serious hill and asked me to send him more ""45 euros for the medicine and to save the life of his mother""" so I refused until this evening..... so he sais he will cancel the package next week on nmonday and of course keep the money I sent him """60 €""...
he did not want to give me the EMS follow-up number that I have been asking him for several days or the information concerning the so-called hospitalization of his mother ( service doctor treatment etc...)... always asking me 45 €uros moer ...
I refused ...( until I am convinced of his honesty...) ( but I'm not sure of that..)
So if anyone have information moere about this guy I would be grateful....
his alias is ""PASCAL TELAO""" for Western union retiring money he said ;''""" KODJO KINWALO S BAMEZON """
tél 00 228 96 60 39 83
... in the past I had to be mistaken by a guy whose alias name by e mail xas "" FOSTIN KELEO""" for 30 €uros and I never received anything located in "BAFILO / TOGO " and yhe name used for retiring money in Wester Union station was "" KOTOE KOMI """
Tel: (00228)93637056 ( 23 Otober 2017 )
I think this person is the same
"" other name from Togo suppliers ('' HELIM DENIS""" """KOSSI CLAUDE BONI """ THIERRY GADAGBUI"""it is said that the latter had sent me only half of the specimens agreed and it must be said in good condition... ((then a half point of honour for him )...
.......stop for any swindlers in this activity....
his mail is " "Pascal TELAO" <email@example.com>"
his last message of this evening is
date 30/01/21 21:39 objet Re:
voir l'en-tête complet
c'est a toi de voir sinon si tu m'envoie les 45 euro sans problème le coli va d'arriver sans faute mais si tu refuse je vais toute fois annulé l'envoie j'ai déjà appelé l'agent de la poste lui expliquer le cas
"""""""""""""""""""It’s up to you to see if not if you send me the 45 euros without problem the coli will arrive without fail but if you refuse I will however cancel the send I have already called the agent of the post explain the case"""""""""""""""""""
Le samedi 30 janvier 2021, <firstname.lastname@example.org> a écrit :
This sounds like one of the standard scams which have been discussed many times on this forum.
Many times. Asking for more money after a deal is struck is a red flag, professionals know what they're doing, the honest and the dishonest. Let alone a semi-plausible excuse like an illness in the family.
::""""some examples of recent remarks for the instruction of novices""""
"""" Message du 29/01/21 20:08 > > De : "Pascal TELAO" <email@example.com> > > A : "firstname.lastname@example.org> > > Copie à : > > Objet : Re: > > > > Dit moi les 60 euro c'est avec ça que j'ai poster le coli avec et non pas pour moi oke Maintenant je te demande une aide pour pourvoir faire les soins a ma maman comprend moi j'ai mit les goliathus et des fornasinus gratuit dans le coli pour toi > > "("REVERSO TRANSLATION )
''''''Tell me the 60 euro that’s how I post the coli with and not for me oke Now I’m asking you for help to care for my mom understand I put the goliathus and free fornasinus in the coli for you''''' > >
Le vendredi 29 janvier 2021, <email@example.com> a écrit : > >
> > je t'ai déjà envoyé 60 euros .................
'''I have already sent you 60 euros '''
Message du 28/01/21 23:46 > > > > > > > De : "Pascal TELAO" <firstname.lastname@example.org> > > > > > > > A : <email@example.com> > > > > > > > Copie à : > > > > > > > Objet : Re: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bonsoir mon ami oh! pourquoi ce message de ta part en disant des bêtises que je suis avalé par un papillon ? J'ai bien envoyé le coli hier qui contient 600 papillons au lieu de 500 et j'ai 5gros goliathus et 10fornasinus dans le coli pour toi
> > > > > > > Actuellement je suis a l'hôpital depuis hier nuit ma vielle maman est gravement malade donc je t'enpris de m'aider pour que je puis payer les produits pour elle et sauver sa vie? Merci de me répondre
( REVERSO TRANSLATION°)
Good evening, my friend oh! why this message from you saying nonsense that I am swallowed by a butterfly? I did send the coli yesterday which contains 600 butterflies instead of 500 and I have 5 big goliathus and 10 fornasinus in the coli for you
> > > > > > > Actually I’ve been in the hospital since last night my old mom is seriously ill so I’m asking you to help me so I can pay for the products for her and save her life? Thank you for answering me
Le jeudi 28 janvier 2021, firstname.lastname@example.org> a écrit : > > > > > >
> > > > > > ....je ne peux faire grand chose de plus mon cher Pascal que donnent les médécins comme traitement exactement à ta maman ?
"""""". I can’t do much more, my dear Pascal, than exactly the doctors give to your mother?"""
>>>>>>>>>>> NO REPLY...............§§
> > > > > oh! my friend I am waiting for your news for the help I am asking you to save my mom I am asking you
>>>>>>Tell me the 60 euro that’s how I post the coli with and not for me oke Now I’m asking you for help to care for my mom understand I put the goliathus and free fornasinus in the coli for you
(( so he made me a present with 600 butterfies goliathus and fornassinus ..... 60 € were only for postage not for his pocket)....
( been kind to this person))
etc...... etc.... etc.....!!
have a good journey and happy new year ( be carefull outside don't forget a mask...)
Post by wingedwishes on Feb 2, 2021 14:02:33 GMT -8
'Dear Mr ______,I'm so sorry your mother is ill. I would be happy to help her a little once the order that I've paid for has arrived and I've had a chance to sell some of them.......'
I have helped a few dealers and friends on occasion who I have come to know and value them.
Good vendors from whom I've had good experiences: Insect Collectors Shop Bill Oehlke Green Hills Butterfly Ranch Insect-Sale Chuck Ianni Dr. Defreina Ken Thorne Insect Collector Shop Girardy's Chuck Limmer
....Yes ... ! I also sent drugs to Cameroon for example but it was someone I think I got to know better over time but this last one from Togo is the first time he contacted me ( he found my email address on ne sai?)and for having experienced these situations in Africa even where I lived for a while ( when I had short panties ..).. I can say that in certain situations, if someone is really determined to take money from you, he can go far to be pitied...
It sounds like the same old scam. Sick relative in hospital, tug at the heartstrings etc......poor me, money just for postage. (If they use this one they should not be in this business if they cannot afford postage) How many times do we see this. Rule #1, NEVER send money up front unless you know they are an established seller. Stop encouraging them.
Posted by tis Feb 11, 2021 at 10:33pm It sounds like the same old scam. Sick relative in hospital, tug at the heartstrings etc......poor me, money just for postage. (If they use this one they should not be in this business if they cannot afford postage) How many times do we see this. Rule #1, NEVER send money up front unless you know they are an established seller. Stop encouraging them.
... yes .ok but sometimes we try to give a chance ,
I am trying to have as much discussion as possible with the person in question, in which case he had already contacted me several months ago in September and it did not succeed, I asked him for pictures of his insects and butterflies but was unable to provide them then he came back recently and this went on and concluded as explained above .... One of these days I will retrieve all the "IP" addresses of his messages and make them available , I do not know if it would be useful , to warn newcomers who would wonder about these scammers ....
pour ma part j'essaie d'avoir le plus de discussion possible avec la personne en question , dans ce cas il m'avait déjà contacté il y a plusieurs mois en septembre et ça n'avait pas abouti , je lui demandais des photos de ses insectes et papillons mais était incapable d'en fournir puis il est revenu récemment et cela s'est déroulé et conclu comme expliqué plus haut .... un de ces jours je vais récupérer toutes les adresses "IP" de ses messages et les mettre à disposition , je ne sais pas trop si cela serait utile , histoire de mettre en garde des nouveaux venus qui se poseraient des question au sujet des ces escrocs ....