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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 10:50:44 GMT -8
OMG.....that is absolutely awesome. I can see your face the moment you saw it..... Incedently, do you realize that you now know of three locations where this rare moth flies......most collectors have never even seen one alive, let alone caught the species in three separate locations. Good job my man. I'll bet you keep shopping there......do keep getting hungry
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Post by appybugs on Aug 25, 2017 11:33:37 GMT -8
Thanks Bill. Yeah, you know me, I'm always hungry . It was the craziest thing. I put the moth in my grocery cart and when I went through the checkout lane, they scanned the hindwings and it came up as an unknown product. But when they scanned the forwings...Bam! There it was...C. marmorata! It was really damn expensive, but thank goodness I had a coupon! Eric
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Post by oehlkew on Aug 25, 2017 15:47:05 GMT -8
A new first for Canada: Maurice Bottos has sent me what I believe are first time reports for Catocala maestosa in Canada. Images have been posted to Ontario Catocala file at www.silkmoths.bizland.com/Catocala/catOntario.htm as well as to the maestosa file. Images come from Windsor, Essex County, southern Ontario. The moth was aencountered along a bait trail, August 24, 2017. Bill Oehlke
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Post by mothman27 on Aug 25, 2017 17:07:21 GMT -8
I had to climb a ladder to get this one from between the greenhouse plastic, hence the poor condition. But, it proved worth it as I believe it is C. alabamae, which I have not found before and according to Bill O.'s site not yet confirmed from IN. Can someone confirm the ID? Thanks,Tim
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Post by oehlkew on Aug 26, 2017 10:03:28 GMT -8
Yes, it certainly looks like alabamae.
Here are comments on my alabamae page:
"Catocala alabamae, the Alabama underwing, (wingspan: 30-40mm) flies from Maryland ?? south to Florida, west to Texas and north to Missouri and Wisconsin ?? and Illinois.
"It has also been reported in Alabama, Arkansas, Delaware, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, New York, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania and Tennessee.
"The listings for Maryland and Wisconsin are unconfirmed. I suspect it flies there and also in Indiana."
With your permission, I will post the image you have posted and confirm it in Indiana, credited to you???
Can you provide a date and a more precise location??
Thanks for notification.
Bill Oehlke
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Post by oehlkew on Aug 26, 2017 10:04:45 GMT -8
Yes, it certainly looks like alabamae.
Here are comments on my alabamae page:
"Catocala alabamae, the Alabama underwing, (wingspan: 30-40mm) flies from Maryland ?? south to Florida, west to Texas and north to Missouri and Wisconsin ?? and Illinois.
"It has also been reported in Alabama, Arkansas, Delaware, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, New York, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania and Tennessee.
"The listings for Maryland and Wisconsin are unconfirmed. I suspect it flies there and also in Indiana."
With your permission, I will post the image you have posted and confirm it in Indiana, credited to you???
Can you provide a date and a more precise location??
Thanks for notification.
Bill Oehlke
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Post by mothman27 on Aug 26, 2017 12:32:27 GMT -8
Cool. I can provide a better image for you since that one is very poor. IN, Whitley Co. I found it already dead, who knows how long. I think it was July 19. Today I found two C. cara in one trap and later I found a worn C. piatrix in the same trap. I guess I missed it the first time unless Catocala fly during the day I have seen 7 species so far this year.
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Post by mothman27 on Aug 26, 2017 12:42:17 GMT -8
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Post by mothman27 on Aug 26, 2017 12:57:20 GMT -8
I can't seem to decide whether this is C. crataegi, C. mira or C. blandula. Indiana, Whitley Co.
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Post by oehlkew on Aug 26, 2017 14:27:52 GMT -8
Thanks Mothman27, Catocala frequently fly during the day when there is a food/energy source nearby. I would often see them feeding during the day on the fermenting sap oozing for large oak trees in New Jersey. I am pretty sure the image directly above is crataegi. Do you also have a date for the crataegi? Bill Oehlke
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Post by mothman27 on Aug 26, 2017 14:38:40 GMT -8
Thanks Mothman27, Catocala frequently fly during the day when there is a food/energy source nearby. I would often see them feeding during the day on the fermenting sap oozing for large oak trees in New Jersey. I am pretty sure the image directly above is crataegi. Do you also have a date for the crataegi? Bill Oehlke That's very interesting and I had no idea. Thanks for the ID. That is a first also for me, the date was mid-July 2017. If you are interested, these are all the species I have collected in Whitley Co., Indiana. (Since 2015) C. innubens C. piatrix C. vidua C. palaeogama C. subnata C. neogama C. relicta C. parta C. cara C. amatrix C. ultronia C. blandula C. grynea C. alabamae C. dulciola C. clintonii C. lineella
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Post by jhyatt on Aug 26, 2017 15:48:58 GMT -8
My theory is that no one can be as lucky with marmorata as Appybugs (Eric) seems to be! Does he carry an old specimen around with him and produce it at odd moments as a new capture? We used to accuse Charlie Covell of this when, on every Kentucky Leps field meeting he, and he alone, would nab a Parrhasius m-album!
Cheers and congrats to Eric, jh
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 19:39:17 GMT -8
I agree......perhaps Eric was a C. marmorata in his past life I was blessed to have been with him when I caught my single specimen......otherwise I wouldn't have seen the moth for sure.
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Post by leptraps on Aug 26, 2017 20:06:13 GMT -8
As part of my Moth Survey in Indiana, I took several Catocala alabamea.I also collected C. Alabamae in Perry County, Indiana in 2012. However, I have never collected it in Kentucky nor Alabama.
Also, no eggs yet from my female Black Witch. I feed her several times a day. She is in a flight cage in my crawlspace with two Cassia plants a friend sent me from Florida. If she fails to lay eggs, she may be a Virgin. I am hoping for a male Black Witch.
And speaking of dumb luck, I picked off a female Anaea andrea today. She is in my other flight cage.
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Post by 58chevy on Aug 27, 2017 6:59:52 GMT -8
Here is my list of Catocala that I've collected this year:
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