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Post by entoman on Dec 30, 2012 19:11:29 GMT -8
Yes a lot of members had turned their back upon the site. Earlier this year I started to work and my time is rather limited now. 58chevy, a million thanks for your help! I have remembered now that I saw the McGuire Center once in a video here on insectnet and it is just mindblowing. I have written them an email and kindly asked if they could provide me with any help and if I could see their breeding facility for the Miami blue. I hope that I will receive positive news from them. Rgds Claude Unfortunately they no longer have the Miami Blues there. I don't recall hearing what happened to their breeding population other than that it no longer exists.
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Post by lepidofrance on Jan 2, 2013 16:43:33 GMT -8
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Post by papilio28570 on Jan 2, 2013 19:10:49 GMT -8
My experience in Florida, where I lived for several years, is that in February, you will want to hunt south of Miami and into the keys. It would be mostly roadside and waste area collecting, but still should be able to collect 10 to 15 species of butterflies and I have no familiarity with moth collecting there, but it should be productive. All parts of Florida north of Orlando (Disneyworld) would still be too early in the season for productive collecting.
Good luck and safe travels.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 3, 2013 8:43:23 GMT -8
just one question about the photo (first message) : in Indonesia ? with local insects dealers ? May be somewhere else but the cigarettes are indonesian (garam gudang) ! I guess so, the westerner at top left looks like Chris Nock, an Australian who lives in Java and sells butterflies on eBay. I have never met him, but I bought some butterflies from him and we have communicated by e-mail. He is a member here too, but doesn't post very often. Adam.
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Post by nomihoudai on Jan 3, 2013 9:44:44 GMT -8
You are not only good in naming butterflies but also people Adam @ Jean-Marc, it was in Java and those were some local collectors that helped us. @ everybody else, thanks for your replies and suggestions. February is indeed very early but I got in contact with the McGuire centre and will visit their collection for some personal research and if the weather permits do some collecting with a fellow insectnetter.
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Post by wingedwishes on Jan 3, 2013 19:08:18 GMT -8
The last 2 winters were warm in Florida. Cold fronts typically last a few days and then go back to warmth mid state. We had 48 hours of cold a week ago and I found dozens of leps sitting on the ground trying to warm up. January 2nd saw my kids in shorts and hundreds of leps flying.
I know some have left but there are many old timers still here. The new/young members seem to appreciate the patience and experience of the long term members. I know I do.
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Post by papilio28570 on Mar 15, 2013 20:07:03 GMT -8
Well, how did the February Florida trip turn out?
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Post by nomihoudai on Mar 16, 2013 5:07:49 GMT -8
Hi papilio28570, thanks for your inquiry. Actually I wanted to post something with pictures in here once my butterflies from Florida are set but as I am too busy I never got around mounting them yet. The trip has been awesome, I have to thank so many people for this, namely Ryan that was a good companion and gave me a place to stay, then another thanks goes to the crew of the McGuire Centre. The first day that I was in Florida I went to the McGuire Centre and met Andrei Sourakov there and Andrew Warren whose name should sound familiar to anybody using the Butterflies of America websites (he is one of the head authors). The collection was tremendous, I was there to take some pictures of the Lycaenidae collection, they had around 4000 drawers of these alone. The first two days I spend my time taking close-up pictures of some species, I have attached a few below. The weekend Ryan and I spend our time catching moths at night and doing some trips to places that we got told by Andrew. The first night with generator at the campus of University of Florida didn't bring much yield, we could still feel that is is only winter. The other nights had been decent when I compare it to Europe, for somebody used to live in Florida it must have been a rather boring catch. Nevertheless I was pleased to see my first Antheraea polyphemus (I hope the idea is correct, I am not really a Saturniidae guy) which can't be compared to anything in Central Europe. I would have loved to get some eggs from them but unfortunately there is no trees keeping leaves right now in Europe so that I couldn't have been able to feed them. Altogether we got something like 50 moths in 3 nights with a decent diversity, at least for European conditions. The day collecting was more successful in my POV, there hasn't been a single day with rain and the temperatures where up in the 70°F all day long. We went to a place where we could observe fresh Papilio glaucus flying around tree tops. Later Andrew asked us if we saw the Papilio glaucus (he told us to go to that exact tree) and I said 'yeah we did, but how do you catch them?!' and his reply was only 'well you can't They come down later in spring when flowers start flowering'. Nevertheless it was a nice place, I got a fresh Battus philenor there. I also have a full range of different Crescents (Crescent is a collective name for Nymphalidae species like Phyciodes tharos, they resemble European Melitaea sp. in their behaviour and color but are much smaller). Later I also got some long tailed skippers when I went to Cedar keys on the Western Coast. If anybody can give me the name of the two species known in Florida I would be grateful. All in all it was a great trip, I got around 50 butterflies which is great for winter and I took 5000 (no this is not a typo) pictures in the McGuire Centre. I learned a whole bunch of interesting techniques from Andrew when taking pictures and at a seminar I met Mr. T. Emmel which I also was very pleased to meet. Lycaena ednaLycaena phlaeas polarisPoecilmitis brooksi tearei
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Post by wollastoni on Mar 16, 2013 6:16:37 GMT -8
It looks like a VERY interesting trip !
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Post by wingedwishes on Mar 16, 2013 13:02:12 GMT -8
The long tailed skipper I know in that area is Urbanus proteus.. You should have been able to see Phocides pigmalion too. Thanks for reporting in. The weather in March was the coldest month this year in Florida.
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Post by rayrard on Mar 17, 2013 22:01:08 GMT -8
The other long-tailed Urbanus is U. dorantes. I've tried to find that in SC for years now but it's a rare stray.
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Post by nomihoudai on Mar 18, 2013 2:12:58 GMT -8
Yes it was an interesting trip!
Thanks to wingedwishes and Ray for the ID. Andrew told me that there was two different species but I couldn't remember which ones. I most likely have both of them.
I didn't see any Phocides pigmalion, probably I wasn't south enough. (I never went further south than Cedar keys where I saw some Brediphium exilis).
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Post by papilio28570 on Mar 18, 2013 21:33:44 GMT -8
You mean Brephidium pseudofea. B. exilis is a west coast USA species
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