@olivier, I used now a method with cold water and styrofoam where the specimen do not touch the water at all, works great for Lycaenidae and I also rerelaxed a Morpho using it within a day. I just didn't feel like posting my setup here as it is just a combination of already posted stuff by Bill and vwman when I remember correctly.
No need to waste the gin, I will drink that myself
Last Edit: Nov 3, 2011 15:03:45 GMT -8 by nomihoudai
Bob, have you tried putting the specimens in direct contact with the damp towels in the relaxing box (not for ornithoptera though), I have just set 1 prepona and 1 agrias and they were very supple after 3 days, hardly no resistance at all.
yes that's my method for all butterflies . My last resort is dipping the thorax in boiling water if it's too stiff after 2 days . I never inject anything
You shouldn't be afraid to put specimens directly in between damp (not dripping wet) paper towels. Put the paper towel under warm tap water and squeeze out all the water you can after. It's extremely rare I've had water stains
I use fairly damp paper towels in the bottom of the box, then a sheet of plastazote to isolate the specimens from the wet paper, then layer the specimens between sheets of toilet paper on top of this. The toilet paper soon becomes damp once the box is closed, but it has little effect on tough Charaxinae.
also to free up any resistance there may be left I squeeze the thorax with tweezers from underneath the specimen to break the strong muscles and make the wings open and close, usually after vthis, even with the strongest specimens a slight touch with the setting needle on the strongest vein is all that is required.
Hi all, I'm new to this forum. I need advice on hydrating the wings of saturniids. I've done this many times before without any difficulty but I have an individual (Atlas moth) who is especially rigid. It's been sitting in a hydrating chamber for weeks. Should I just inject water into the thorax or are there any other methods for more effective hydration of the wing muscles? I really don't want to mess up this specimen. Thanks, Robin