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Post by jshuey on Nov 29, 2021 9:36:00 GMT -8
A co-worker just put up a testimonial for this procuct to remove burrs from clothing - BurrPaw - Multi-Purpose Sticker and Burr Remover, Dark Color Non-Abrasive Mitten, One Size For Clothing, Gear & Pets (https://burrpaw.com/).
He should know what works, given that he is in the field almost every day.
John
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Post by 58chevy on Nov 29, 2021 10:18:10 GMT -8
I think clothing is available that's made of Kevlar (the bullet-proof stuff). Stickers, burrs & nettles should not be able to penetrate it. I don't know the brand name or where to get it. Maybe an internet search would find it.
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Post by tv on Nov 29, 2021 15:59:10 GMT -8
To my mind the perfect pants would be tactical pants with an inner cuff, like snow pants. With the inner cuff in the boot and the outer pant cuff outside the boot, that would do the trick. But I can't find any such thing. Does anyone know of the perfect field pants for summer field work in nasty plants? Chuck Hey Chuck, have you thought about having a seamstress/tailor add your cuffs inside of the tactical pants you showed. I'm guessing it wouldn't be very expensive because you're adding an interior piece that doesn't have to look nice. It would only be a little fabric and some elastic, maybe an hour or two of work. They might even find fun since it would probably be a unique request.
As for what I wear, I generally fall into the shorts category as well, which has usually worked okay for me. You can see/feel the ticks crawl up your legs so you can stop them. The only time it backfired is when a wasp flew up my shorts leg and lodged between the outside of the shorts and the pocket. It then proceeded to sting the crap out of me while I couldn't see it. I was madly slapping my leg and about 3 seconds from dropping my pants and running for it.
I did have one pair of pants that I would use when I was planning to be off trail, and they were pretty good. They were kind of baggy tactical pants (button/flap pockets) that kept me fairly cool and gave enough space so that thorns and things weren't right against my skin if I got caught up. The thing that was nice about them is that they had drawstrings in the pant cuffs. So I could put them down over my boots and then tie them tight to keep my laces from getting all chewed up. I haven't really seen much like them since. That could be another option that you could probably do yourself, just cut a little hole in the cuff and run a piece of paracord through it tie off the cuffs.
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Post by exoticimports on Nov 29, 2021 16:03:37 GMT -8
Thanks TV. That is my plan if I don’t find something off the shelf.
Chuck
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Post by kevinkk on Nov 29, 2021 16:37:14 GMT -8
I think clothing is available that's made of Kevlar (the bullet-proof stuff). Stickers, burrs & nettles should not be able to penetrate it. I don't know the brand name or where to get it. Maybe an internet search would find it. That's an interesting idea, I been watching John Wick lately, and you can buy Kevlar clothing, it's not cheap, although I can see some multi functionality for an outfit. One thing I have learned about clothes you like- buy 2 or more, invariably it'll go out of style and you'll be at the mercy of "current fashion" trends.
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Post by exoticimports on Nov 29, 2021 17:22:45 GMT -8
Lol. The night market in Bangkok had liberated Hugo Boss shirts at a great price. I bought “a bunch” in 1998. Still wear them and one remaining new in bag. Fashion mogul I am not.
Kevlar doesn’t breathe.
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Post by wingedwishes on Nov 30, 2021 6:53:30 GMT -8
I wear cargo pants. Under my belt I clip a fabric bag to dispense envelopes. I put Duck (Duct?) tape to cover the laces of my Boots because I dislike pulling stickers/burrs from the laces. I also carry a set of military boot blouses. They are an elastic with hooks that will hold the pants close to the skin to prevent critters from climbing up to visit nether places. If it is a clear trail, I roll the pant legs up to cool off and the boot blouses hold them there. I've since worn it out but even though it is a strange image, I loved my 'pith helmet.' The venting helped cool and they styrofoam core kept the heat from above at bay. Now I wear a cowboy hat (Tan, crushable, vented). There is a brand of shirt I wear called 'Ex Oficio' that fisherman use too. They are vented with a tight weave that seems to prevent mosquitos and over heating. It has a velcro clip on the chest that is perfect for my long forceps to retrieve beetles burrowed in wood or scorpions. In my backpack is a solar charger for my phone for gps/photos, a first aid kit, frozen water, knife, twine, a small tarp. The mosquitos in Belize seemed smaller to me and they never bothered to bite me. The Belize version of poison ivy also refused to bother me though it did bother my daughter.....Anyway, I'm rambling. Hope this post gave some good info.
Cheers, Tyson
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Post by eleodes on Nov 30, 2021 7:16:39 GMT -8
My typical collecting attire is a pair of jeans, a cotton t-shirt, a pair of waterproof cowboy work boots (high top, no laces), a ball cap, and a small backpack to carry equipment (jars, ziploc bags (when I use a sweep net, I'll typically empty the entire contents of the net into a bag for later sorting), water, a snack, forceps, paint brushes, ect.). My clothing works pretty good, unless I try to walk through Blackberries, Roses, or Honey Locust trees.
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Post by exoticimports on Nov 30, 2021 8:23:07 GMT -8
Lots of good insights.
Honey Locust, they are horrible! Friggin things, don't get caught up in those. It's the little ones I don't see that nail me.
Tyson, you're lucky on the mozzies. My then-wife got 74 Belizian mozzie bites on one arm alone in 10 minutes because she read that Skin So Soft would repel them (it did not.)
Chuck
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Post by wingedwishes on Nov 30, 2021 9:07:20 GMT -8
Lots of good insights. Honey Locust, they are horrible! Friggin things, don't get caught up in those. It's the little ones I don't see that nail me. Tyson, you're lucky on the mozzies. My then-wife got 74 Belizian mozzie bites on one arm alone in 10 minutes because she read that Skin So Soft would repel them (it did not.) Chuck They devour me in the States. I don't know why the smaller ones won't bite me in Belize. I also have long hair (Native American) that keeps bugs off of my neck. I shake my head and the pony tail shoos them away. I do admit to using good cigars to help keep biting insects off of me. When I arrived in Belize and found the skeeters, mozzies, etc. did not bite me, I traded my high deet content insect repellant for vodka to make the mangos, limes, etc. taste better. Will be there again in August. I have tons of video and photos but want to get more. Tyson
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Post by evra on Dec 1, 2021 15:08:32 GMT -8
I always wear long pants, particularly jeans. In the southwest deserts almost every plant has spines or thorns. But there’s something nasty to get into almost everywhere. Poison oak in S. CA, wild rose, blackberry and Ceanothus in the Rocky Mtns., cacti in all of the desert southwest, and all kinds of stuff in the east. I could never see myself in shorts on a serious collecting trip.
Acacia greggii is my vote for the worst. Getting your net or clothing tangled up in it is truly a nightmare. Trying to get out of a patch of it usually gets you in deeper and you always end up bleeding in multiple places after you finally succeed.
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Post by coloradeo on Dec 28, 2021 22:30:45 GMT -8
Columbia cargo pants work well for me in the West… Light enough but protect me from most everything unless it’s really nasty. Columbia PFG style shirts work well for sweaty days when you need to keep the sun off and the sleeves roll up nicely. I always wear long pants too. Did I mention there’s a Columbia Outlet store in Summit county?
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Post by exoticimports on Dec 29, 2021 5:28:40 GMT -8
Columbia cargo pants work well for me in the West… Light enough but protect me from most everything unless it’s really nasty. Columbia PFG style shirts work well for sweaty days when you need to keep the sun off and the sleeves roll up nicely. I always wear long pants too. Did I mention there’s a Columbia Outlet store in Summit county? Columbia still makes some OK stuff, specifically the PFG line. Though Columbia is going the way of Eddie Bauer, Outdoor Research, etc and making more useless urban chic rubbish. Patagonia too can still make some OK outdoor clothing, but one has to be careful- the old stuff off Eghey is better than the new stuff. On that, socks suffer the most. A proper sock is key to foot health, particularly in the jungle. All of them now- Columbia, Eddie Bauer, OR, even REI, produce junk socks. The label says "Merino Wool" but if you read the fine print they're mostly plastic. Have to get socks from Darn Tough or Smartwool; Wigham makes some decent socks but you have to find those with a high wool content and avoid their low-end junk. Chuck
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Post by luehdorf on Jan 20, 2022 5:19:26 GMT -8
Surely some of you wear pants. No suggestions? I do have the perfect solution for tick areas! In Germany we have a real tick problem, and I could not spray enough repellant onto my trousers and hands, I every single time had ticks, and in Germany those are extremely dangerous. A high percentage have lyme disease and encephalitis, so bacteria and viruses at the same time, you really do not want to catch that. I found a brand in the Netherlands that produces tick-repellant trousers and clothes for forestry. The clothes are completely covered in permethrine, washable 100 times, according to the norm NEN-8333. I did a test with those trousers and put a tick on the trouser, it tried to walk a few millimetres and it looked like its legs were being burnt, and after a few minutes it couldnt hold on to the fabric anymore and stopped walking. When I go into tick areas, for example a meadow where sheep just had been grazing, I not only wear those trousers, but also socks, and a long-sleeve shirt, completely covered in permethrine, and then I spray insect repellant on my neck and ears too, because the grass is sometimes too tall when you kneel down. Check out the website: rovince.uk/It looks like it is mainly selling in Europe, but might be possible to get something sent to the US. Trust me, after having this stuff, I was so relieved and finally could go chasing butterflies in tick areas again. Needless to say that also mosquitoes have no chance of sitting on this fabric, the permethrine is really strong. I guess it is not so healthy even for adult humans, to have that much insect poison in a fabric, but rather that than lyme disease.
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Post by jshuey on Jan 20, 2022 6:15:20 GMT -8
Surely some of you wear pants. No suggestions? I do have the perfect solution for tick areas! In Germany we have a real tick problem, and I could not spray enough repellant onto my trousers and hands, I every single time had ticks, and in Germany those are extremely dangerous. A high percentage have lyme disease and encephalitis, so bacteria and viruses at the same time, you really do not want to catch that. I found a brand in the Netherlands that produces tick-repellant trousers and clothes for forestry. The clothes are completely covered in permethrine, washable 100 times, according to the norm NEN-8333. I did a test with those trousers and put a tick on the trouser, it tried to walk a few millimetres and it looked like its legs were being burnt, and after a few minutes it couldnt hold on to the fabric anymore and stopped walking. When I go into tick areas, for example a meadow where sheep just had been grazing, I not only wear those trousers, but also socks, and a long-sleeve shirt, completely covered in permethrine, and then I spray insect repellant on my neck and ears too, because the grass is sometimes too tall when you kneel down. Check out the website: rovince.uk/It looks like it is mainly selling in Europe, but might be possible to get something sent to the US. Trust me, after having this stuff, I was so relieved and finally could go chasing butterflies in tick areas again. Needless to say that also mosquitoes have no chance of sitting on this fabric, the permethrine is really strong. I guess it is not so healthy even for adult humans, to have that much insect poison in a fabric, but rather that than lyme disease. These are also available from several outlets in the US. And there are companies that will treat your personal clothing as well - this is what we do at work. I think $100 lets you treat 3-4 pairs of pants and several shirts and lots of socks - shipping included. Supposedly good for up to 70 washes, but we tell staff to re-treat clothing each year just to be safe. John
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