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Post by mothman55 on Oct 17, 2021 7:37:55 GMT -8
An old friend of mine put me onto baiting for papilio canadensis a few years ago in Central Ontario. His technique was just a mix of salt and water, but also using decoys to lure the passing canadensis to the moist patch. But as Adan said, seems there must be more to it as some patches would attract a nice group of canadensis while others got very few or none at all.
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Post by exoticimports on Oct 17, 2021 8:00:26 GMT -8
An old friend of mine put me onto baiting for papilio canadensis a few years ago in Central Ontario. His technique was just a mix of salt and water, but also using decoys to lure the passing canadensis to the moist patch. But as Adan said, seems there must be more to it as some patches would attract a nice group of canadensis while others got very few or none at all. Good data. Thanks.
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Post by Paul K on Oct 17, 2021 8:02:51 GMT -8
An old friend of mine put me onto baiting for papilio canadensis a few years ago in Central Ontario. His technique was just a mix of salt and water, but also using decoys to lure the passing canadensis to the moist patch. But as Adan said, seems there must be more to it as some patches would attract a nice group of canadensis while others got very few or none at all. This true indeed, not everywhere will urine work. I remember trying to lure butterflies to urine in Koh Tao ( small island in Gulf of Thailand) and to my surprise the effect was negative. Either at the small stream or paddle it just didn’t work at all. The neighbouring island Koh Samui I have had some success at the stream.
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Post by foxxdoc on Oct 19, 2021 7:58:19 GMT -8
enjoyed the beer stories.
Try packaged fertilizer; most contains UREA. works. read contents of package.
BEST
TOM
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Post by exoticimports on Oct 19, 2021 8:02:15 GMT -8
enjoyed the beer stories. Try packaged fertilizer; most contains UREA. works. read contents of package. BEST TOM Probably get me on the no fly list. Hey, that may not be a bad thing, after 3 million air miles!
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Post by papilio28570 on Jan 2, 2022 22:06:29 GMT -8
In 2008, I spent 4 days touring a cigar production facility in Honduras. During the tobacco leaf curing process the leaves are stacked in piles and re-stacked when pile core temperature reaches a certain degree which varies by brand among other factors I won't bore you with. This is actually fermentation of the leaves and a great amount of ammonia is released. This takes place in a sealed room or vault and the workers are unfazed by the overpowering stench while I was sent into convulsions of coughing when I briefly entered the vault. To get to the point, I noticed over the years that P. glaucus males are attracted to my cigar smoke when afield. Cigar tobacco is very rich in minerals which imparts different flavors to the smoke depending on where the tobacco was grown and there is a certain amount of ammonia left in the leaves due to the fermentation. Though I have never tried it, I always thought that a jug filled with stale beer and a number of cigars and maybe some sugar would provide a decent butterfly bait. Cigarette tobacco lacks the rich mineral content and is not fermented and likely would not be suitable. And don't use cheap machine made cigars. The tobacco is heavily processed and chemicals are added for "flavor". Use hand rolled cigars because even the cheap brands use the same mountain grown tobacco as the premium bands.
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