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Post by hypanartia on May 26, 2013 16:11:59 GMT -8
Come on!!! Do no tell me that this was the guy that provoke the changes in this forum, by threatening to sue Clark. Clark, did he give you his lawyer's information?
Now I understand why he threat to sue me and others than left a negative feedback. Works (at least) one time....
He is a pathological liar. It is so, to the point that to my negative feedback, he replied in e-bay for everyone to see (no in a personal e-mail): "buyer left neg feedback by mistake..." Who is going to believe that.
I saw photos of specimens grossly Photoshopped for this individual to hide repairs and defects, that were acquired for other collector. The contrast with the photo of the actual specimen received is infuriating. He seems to apply that to "rare" Papilios of black background color. Now he has a "rogeri pharnaces" posted that most likely is also photoshoped (base of left anterior wing, and area of the tails in both wings).
He is the one that need to be careful, if he does not like to end with enduring problems. As somebody notice here, he is misleading his location. He is a slovak, leaving in Slovakia. This lie, may generate obvious legal problems, that could be pursued by wildlife and tax law enforcement...
Jesus
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Post by hypanartia on Nov 17, 2011 21:53:24 GMT -8
Olivier What about Antanartia borbonica? I am pretty sure it is protected, but how rare or abundant it is? Did you see any? Jesus
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Post by hypanartia on Sept 23, 2011 14:31:12 GMT -8
Do not take it in the wrong way, but If you like to sell to Spanish speakers I recommend you to change the name "timoinsects", it literally means "swindle insects". No the best image to put in the mind of a costumer. Regards Jesus
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Post by hypanartia on Aug 28, 2011 11:20:50 GMT -8
Well Claude, Pretty hard indeed. In this picture you painted, there is no difference with the more 1900 view of a single specie diversifying in three species or three subspecies. In 1900 Papilio canadiensis was named Papilio glaucus canadensis. Then it was "elevated", we can said, promoted to full species. I will no comment in those modern mechanisms such us "the offspring has no interest in mating with the parents". Too advanced for me.
Hybridization of species as a mechanism of generation of species is in my point of view just made up and less than a theory, specially for insects with a fast flux of genes within the populations. The application of this novel mechanism will depend in which order, the extreme phenotypes are found and described, and what is the current status of the these two populations. If the intermediate is the last to be found, and both are considered to be species, and Oh God you like it to remain as a species. Then will be generated by hybridization, and of course is not going to be a part of a clina, because is a full species.
As I said in some posts ago, I did not like to go there... but I did, and now I am going out.
Jesus
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Post by hypanartia on Aug 27, 2011 14:17:05 GMT -8
"The fertility of offspring of an inter-specific hybrid does not necessarily disqualify their classification as species". Sorry to say but the fertility of the offspring in an "inter-specific" hybrid, do indeed disqualify the parental populations as species.
Species, is the only taxon with a objective definition (for organisms with sexual reproduction), able to be tested experimentally. Sometimes is hard, sometimes is impossible to test, but most of the time is just ignored. Variations in genitalia structure have been used in insects as an indicator of genetic isolation. This is logic, as significant changes in the genitalia can make both population incompatible to interbreed in nature or in the lab.
Happens yesterday or long time ago, two species cannot interbreed and produce fertile descendents, which in turn became a different species unable to interbreed with the parental "species". That makes no sense at all. Both parental populations must belong to the same species. On the other hand, it is not possible to probe that scientifically and it contradict the initial hypothesis. Glaucus, apallachensis and canadensis are probably just a single specie showing clinal variation. Papilionidae is not my thing but I remember to listen about glaucusxcanadensis "hybrids..."
As "genetic isolation" by geographical, seasonal.... barriers. Two populations isolated can perfectly belong to the same species. Vanessa cardui living in America and Africa have little chances to interbreed but belong to the same species. The two populations will deserve species status if they lost the "potential" to interbreed in nature. I have little chances to interbreed with a billionaire women, but I have the potential to do it, or at least, this is what I have been told.
Glaucus is bivoltine at low altitude. In Maryland, they are clearly two broods, with lots of individuals at the peak of every brood. However, nobody can dismiss that you can see individuals during the whole season.
Maybe glaucus and appalachensis are different species....the authors have a more authorized point of view. The thing that I do not buy is that speculation about the interbreeding of two species as the origin of a new species specially in insects, which is a ridiculous statement.
Regards Jesus
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Post by hypanartia on Aug 25, 2011 15:50:03 GMT -8
Hi I do not like to go there. Just let me point that some people use incorrectly the taxon species. If two "species" mixed and produced fertile descendents, this is not probe that the hybrid population is a species, it will strongly suggest that both parental 'species" are not actually, species.
Regards Jesus
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Post by hypanartia on Aug 24, 2011 17:40:44 GMT -8
Hi If you are considering the whole North America, and just Europe, and only Papilio, may be. North America has more rich variety of habitats. Europe is just a part of the Paleartic On the other hand, if you see the list of Papilio in the East Coast of USA, a hand is more that enough, specially if you exclude doubtful species as P. appalachensis. If you count Papilionidae as a whole Europe is much more rich in species than at least the East Coast of USA.May guess is that Papilio is a Tropical genus with very little success in temperate climate (I suppose the number of species will decrease too in the South hemisphere as the climate temperates)
On the other hand I was born and collected in Spain for years, when I come to live to the East Coast I was surprised of the poor representation of Satyridae here (One hand is enough again), despite the richness is grassess. However, Hesperoidea is very rich in species.
I think the diversity of a region in a particular family or genus is unlikely to be related to extinction (in general). Most likely will be associated to the ecozone in which they originate, the host plant biology...
Best regards Jesus
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Post by hypanartia on Aug 15, 2011 19:07:58 GMT -8
Hello All Clark, the silence tell me what I already know, for that reason the need for a post. In the other hand, just to point out that being secretive about the identity of honest dealers from "difficult areas", do not help precisely his business. However, people has not trouble to exhibit the name of re-sellers (second or third hand dealers) which with they had good experiences. My guess is that part of the problem is also that today everyone is selling insects. Reveal the name of one of this native people is loosing "costumers". Revealing the name of a re-seller is painless, because if you do not sell insects you do not care, and if you sell insects you are no that stupid to believe you are going to sell them for a bigger prize. Just a reminder that this hobby is about insects, and insects are no currency. From the areas I am looking for the only dealer I know is a French fellow (I can remember his name now) that collect himself in Ethiopia. Unfortunately is Coleoptera and Heterocera biased. He has also Papilionidae and Charaxes (no my thing). I did not do any trades with him, but people told me is quite honest. boutique.ald-entomologie.fr/epages/243657.sf/fr_FR/?ObjectPath=/Shops/243657/Categories/Papilionidae Jeff, thanks for give me the information of that collector. Do you know the area in Tanzania where it is located? He is outside my area of interest but I will keep his information. Sounds a lot of money, but I suppose he could take smaller orders. Anyway, again posting his name him probably help him to increase his income. Regards Jesus
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Post by hypanartia on Aug 11, 2011 18:18:54 GMT -8
Hello I am looking for a dealer of butterflies in Uganda or Ethiopia. Could you recommend me a dealer with which you had a previous good experience? Regards Jesus
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Post by hypanartia on Apr 9, 2011 13:09:06 GMT -8
Hello Jonathan The specimen is in my opinion from the second generation (form aestiva), having bigger yellow-orange patches and more light coloration than the first generation. This seasonal variation is more clear in P. aegeria aegeria, and in the fenales as the one you shown
Regards Jesus
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Post by hypanartia on Mar 6, 2011 15:17:54 GMT -8
OK, As you wish. This is my personal experience with the trader mentioned below. I think the experience deserved a post.
BAD EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH THIERRY SALESNE/PRATS (Farino, New Caledonia) E-mail: kanaky687@gmail.com
At the beginning of the last season I set an exchange with apparently a different person, Josaine Prats which seems to be his wife. The deal was that at the end of the season North American Sphingidae/Saturnidae for some Nymphalidae from the Oriental region. He/She send me a terrific list of species that he/she put aside for me, including very rare specimens (#1). He/she said that he/she has almost no specimens from North America, and that any species will work for him/her. I told him/her I was not a night collector, but I will do my best to try to match the offered specimens. During the season I obtained what I can through exchanges, and collecting. Felling that was not even close to set the exchange, I purchased specimens from BioQuip to balance a little bit the deal. I contacted him and send a list of the specimens I have in hand. I get a reply from which was obviously a different person (Thierry Salesne/Prats), and he insisted that I need to send the parcel first, otherwise the deal is off (#2). I had no reference from him, except that he always insisted he was very professional and serious (#3), which was not enough for me. I asked from him a list of the specimens he was planning to send back in return. That request was dismissed (#4). I asked to send my a current photo of a very rare specimen he claimed he has with my name . He sent me the photo but my name was not there and the photo was updated (the photo was took 4 moths before) (#5). He told that he was busy, with two children and the wife outside the Island. I can understand. He also ask for one “invoice” because he said in the postal office there are all thieves (#6). That may be is true. OK, I should not send the parcel (#1-#6), but I sent it out.
Two weeks later he received the parcel. He complained that “the cotton was full of hair”, said that I was a dirty person and some other unpleasant things. He, of course, said that the specimens were A-/A2 (#7). After this e-mail the deal obviously was off. I requested from him to send me back the specimens. He said is going to do it (October 27, 2010). After two more unanswered e-mails, in December 5, 2010, he replies to say that he has prepared (men, prepared!!) the parcel. The only thing he needs to do is close the package and send it back. He said he added some specimens, I said that I do not like anything from him just my specimens back. Well, January 7 I wrote to him asking him to confirm that he indeed has send the specimens and requesting a invoice number to track it down, if he send the parcel. No answer. January 27, another e-mail, no answer. February 12 , again. No answer (#8). OK. No more waiting.
It has been more than 4 months since this person received the parcel. The patience has limits. I do not like other people pass through all of this, with a “guy” that thinks has the upper hand just because request to receive the specimens first. If after reading this you decide to exchange with him is after you, but my advice is that you should not send your parcel first.
Regards Jesus Colino
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Post by hypanartia on Mar 2, 2011 15:52:04 GMT -8
Hi to all This is not my forum. So I am trying to follow the rules set for the owner of the forum. The intention of Clark is to left this kind of discussion out of the forum.
I am no posting that out of a minimal inconvenience, a delay... I think my post is adequate for the rules of the forum. So:
-If you have no intention to trade with somebody there, just dismiss the post.
-If you plan to do it, and you like to know who is and what was (is) my personal experience, send me a PM and I am going to send you back a message containing what could be a post in the old forum.
If you plan to do it, and do not care about my opinion. Well, proceed with the exchange. If you believe you are a friend of the subject of the post. Send me a PM and....and I am going to send you back a message containing what could be a post in the old forum. If it is your friend, you can forward the message to him (please do it), and then you can talk about how unfair I am.
Regards Jesus
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Post by hypanartia on Mar 1, 2011 18:19:31 GMT -8
If you are planning to do an exchange of Sphingidae/Saturnidae with a collector from New Caledonia (Nouvelle Caledonie), please contact me, before you send your specimens. I cannot go further in the specifics because of the new rules of the forum. Regards Jesus
PD> I have no specimens from that area.
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