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Post by automeris111 on Aug 17, 2018 1:42:31 GMT -8
Hello,
I plan an insect collecting trip in Thailand next March.Someone can tell me if there are any problems with collected insects export?Also if there are problems collecting outside protected areas?
Thank you
Gratian
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Post by Adam Cotton on Aug 17, 2018 4:01:01 GMT -8
Gratian,
If you collect outside of protected areas (National Parks and Wildlife Sanctuaries) and do not catch any protected species there is no problem in Thailand, and there are no restrictions about taking specimens home with you.
List of Protected Thai Insects:
1. Cheirotonus parryi Gray
2. Prosopocoilus (Cladognathus) giraffa Oliver
3. Mouhotia batesi Lewis
4. Mormolyce phyllodes Hagenbach
5. Teinopalpus imperialis Hope
6. Troides amphrysus Cramer
7. Troides helena Linnaeus
8. Stichophthalma godfreyi Rothschild
9. Stichophthalma cambodia Hewitson
10. Stichophthalma louisa Wood-Mason
11. Stichophthalma camadeva Westwood
12. Bhutanitis lidderdalii Atkinson
13. Papilio protenor Cramer
14. Meandrusa sciron Leech
15. Meandrusa payeni Boisduval
16. Papilio palinurus Fabricius
17. Actias rhodopneuma Rober
18. Actias maenas Doubleday
19. Actias selene Huebner
20. Actias sinensis Mell
Adam.
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Post by Paul K on Aug 17, 2018 7:14:27 GMT -8
I must add that many National Parks borders are very poorly marked so in many cases you will not know for sure if you are in or out of protected areas.
Many villages and coffee, Tea plantations are also included within National Parks borders now, so caution should be taken at all times.
Paul
PS.
Adam, is there any current map of National Parks available? I searched all internet and couldn't find anything specific on this subject.
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Post by automeris111 on Aug 17, 2018 8:05:58 GMT -8
Thank you very much for the information.I'll be careful because I had some bad experience a few years ago in Turkey.I was arrested and get 30.000 euro fine(which I did not pay,off course).We have a guide and hope he knows the location of protected area.
Gratian
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Post by Adam Cotton on Aug 17, 2018 8:56:19 GMT -8
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Post by Paul K on Aug 17, 2018 10:11:42 GMT -8
Yea, I found those maps before but the boundaries are not really accurate nor detailed.
The truth is if there is a nice, primary piece of forest 80% of chance it is National Park or other protected area and it’s not only in Thailand.
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Post by trehopr1 on Aug 17, 2018 15:26:36 GMT -8
Geez Adam, by the looks of that protected list all the best things are protected!! Not much left but, the common fodder... Bummer. Might as well go to Laos or Cambodia where they probably don't give a hoot!
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Post by Paul K on Aug 17, 2018 16:34:32 GMT -8
No, the list is very small, over 1200 species of butterflies and who knows how many moths and beetles.
The list includes actually mainly common species.
The good stuff is free to go ( off course if you could find them out of NP).
Paul
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Post by robertdodd on Aug 19, 2018 2:53:20 GMT -8
Hi Gratian, Adam and all,
from my experience Adam is right, stay away from national parks and youre ok, yes some locations and areas can be on the doorstep, just use common sense!
for the list of protected species Adam has given it looks right but i know the DNP have recently changed alot and have put some non protected species onto quota lists! yes common stuff, but thats what happens when bods in offices want to climb the ladder and never get outside or consult with the people in the field
as for places to stay here in Thailand and especially the Amazing North Thailand, we have our own homestays now on our very small butterfly farm next door to Wiang kosai national park!
hope it helps
cheers Rob
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Post by Paul K on Aug 19, 2018 4:37:26 GMT -8
Are you near Punjen Hideaway? Or did you purchase it?
I think Dwaila mentioned something about possiblity of selling the resort if I’m not mistaken
Paul
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Post by automeris111 on Aug 19, 2018 12:49:47 GMT -8
Hi Bob,
Thank you for the info.I understand you have a hamestay.Can you give a contact address for more details?
Gratian
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Post by dominoque on Oct 3, 2018 21:39:40 GMT -8
I was in Punjen in June 2018. Dwaila was about to sell her resort and started building something nearby (near the Tilapias breeding pond for those who know the place).
I saw the new building under construction and I understood that it would be reserved for entomologists, perhaps with different comfort conditions.
You can easily contact Dwaila on the Punjen Hide-Away website.
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Post by automeris111 on Apr 21, 2019 5:09:26 GMT -8
I'm back from my collecting trip to Thailand from a while.Unfortunately I got used to my daily routine to fast.Was an unforgettable experience.And that's that owes it to our guide Antonio Giudici.Want to thank him again for what he did for us.Good collecting places, good accommodation..I don't know, can't use the word for an exciting trip.I think now is preparing for the trip in Papua, and wish him a good trip.So who like to go collecting in Thailand he is the man.I'll return in South asap.
I also have the honor to meet Adam Cotton. A special person! By his goodwill we visit his collection.!You must see it, can not describe.Thank you Adam and hope to meet you again soon(I don't forget about the cactus).After the Easter I'll send the parcel .I have some pic, but I don't know how to post them.Maybe somebody help me....
Regards
Gratian
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Post by wollastoni on Apr 21, 2019 12:40:48 GMT -8
Must have been a great trip !
And yes Antonio is a famous guide in Thailand ! He is travelling most of the year so he must know the good spots !
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Post by Adam Cotton on Apr 27, 2019 5:10:42 GMT -8
I'm back from my collecting trip to Thailand from a while.Unfortunately I got used to my daily routine to fast.Was an unforgettable experience.And that's that owes it to our guide Antonio Giudici.Want to thank him again for what he did for us.Good collecting places, good accommodation..I don't know, can't use the word for an exciting trip.I think now is preparing for the trip in Papua, and wish him a good trip.So who like to go collecting in Thailand he is the man.I'll return in South asap. I also have the honor to meet Adam Cotton. A special person! By his goodwill we visit his collection.!You must see it, can not describe.Thank you Adam and hope to meet you again soon(I don't forget about the cactus).After the Easter I'll send the parcel .I have some pic, but I don't know how to post them.Maybe somebody help me.... Regards Gratian Gratian, It was good to meet you, your wife and your friend. I am very happy to hear that you had a good time with Antonio, he is really excellent. To post photos please see insectnet.proboards.com/thread/7583/inserting-photographsI look forward to meeting you again next time. Thank you for remembering about the cacti for my son. I am sure he will be excited to hear that you will send a package for him soon. Adam. |
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