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Post by desertrat on Jun 30, 2018 16:44:23 GMT -8
Is there any preferred way of shopping dried specimens? I've ordered dried specimens from sellers and they were shipped on thin cardboard with tissue padding and secured this cellophane. Is there a special material used for this method like a special thin cardboard or certain cellophane?
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Post by lordpandarus on Jul 1, 2018 17:51:44 GMT -8
For BUTTERFLIES (not beetles):
I find the method described above (stapled to cardboard with cellophane) has the HIGHEST RISK OF DAMAGE. I always cringe when I get one like that. I think if the specimen is too rigidly secured and can't move around slightly little shocks can damage it more easily. Plus getting it out of there can be a pain
Damage is somewhat rare in regular triangular envelopes. But if the envelope is too lose damage can occur if the wing hit the edges.
The BEST method seems to be specimens placed inside a folded paper tissue which is then put inside a triangular envelope. Even specimens with fragile tails don't get damaged that way
So Triangular envelope + inner folded paper tissue layer
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Post by kirkwilliams on Jul 3, 2018 16:24:21 GMT -8
Totally agree!
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Post by jhyatt on Jul 3, 2018 18:13:38 GMT -8
I also agree. And furthermore, I think sturdy stiff paper triangles (ordinary typing or printer paper) are safer than the thin, slick, floppy translucent ones some dealers use. And please, please, never use staples to secure a label to an envelope, or to limit motion of a specimen in an envelope. Damage during their removal is almost guaranteed!
Good hunting,
jh
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Post by exoticimports on Jul 4, 2018 5:01:53 GMT -8
I also agree. And furthermore, I think sturdy stiff paper triangles (ordinary typing or printer paper) are safer than the thin, slick, floppy translucent ones some dealers use. And please, please, never use staples to secure a label to an envelope, or to limit motion of a specimen in an envelope. Damage during their removal is almost guaranteed! Good hunting, jh I cut off the section with the staple prior to removing the specimen. If it’s an envelope I cut the fold off as well making it easy to remove the specimen. Folded triangles with paper are the best way but when one is in the field capturing hundreds of specimens each day it’s not feasible |
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Post by desertrat on Jul 4, 2018 16:03:23 GMT -8
Great points and thank you for the advice! I ordered some scorpions and beetles from overseas and they came with the cellophane cardboard method. They arrived fine but I thought they looked like they could be damaged fairly easily. I'd like to start selling some specimens but didn't know how to pack them.
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Post by lordpandarus on Jan 12, 2019 9:43:50 GMT -8
I'll retract a bit my statement about butterfies stapled on a cardboard back arriving damaged .I have a current seller who does this and all specimens arrive in pristine condition. But he does put a paper tissue on top of the cardboard back and lots of staples.So maybe his method is better than others
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 20:49:28 GMT -8
Double or triple boxing works great. Outer box gets damaged......more often than not, inside boxes are just fine.....as are specimens.
Years ago when I imported 20+ boxes a year, I would often pay extra to have the specimens triple boxed. Many suppliers did it for free once I became a regular/frequent buyer. The last pricey bug I bought from within the US was triple boxed and I had it overnighted for extra bucks......it was well worth the extra cost as it was a once in a lifetime specimen and had less time to be juggled/tossed around with the everyday mail over several days or a week. Triple boxing does not really add weight at all, just increases the dimensions a bit.
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Post by lordpandarus on Jan 15, 2019 8:36:01 GMT -8
this seller in question uses stytofoam sheets he tapes together to make an outer box . Seems to work pretty well at absorbing shocks
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