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Aug 19, 2016 7:21:12 GMT -8
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Post by leptraps on Aug 19, 2016 7:21:12 GMT -8
Battus polydamus can be common some years and then become rather scarce for several years.
Have you seen any other Swallowtails? Heraclides palamedes should be about. The southern form of P. troilus should be on the wing as well.
If you are near the beach you will not find much. Cross the intercoastal waterway west of Palm Coast and you will find areas for collecting.
Did you bring a bait trap?
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Aug 19, 2016 12:53:47 GMT -8
Post by 58chevy on Aug 19, 2016 12:53:47 GMT -8
Leroy,
What is the best way (light rig?) to collect sphinx moths in S Florida, and where can you collect them without a permit? Same for Composia fidelissima and Eumaeus atala.
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Florida
Aug 19, 2016 21:19:32 GMT -8
Post by rayrard on Aug 19, 2016 21:19:32 GMT -8
Leroy, What is the best way (light rig?) to collect sphinx moths in S Florida, and where can you collect them without a permit? Same for Composia fidelissima and Eumaeus atala. Good luck with Florida... it's very difficult to find legal collecting spots that are any good. Maybe neighborhood parks or roadsides. All state parks, NWR, state forests, and hammocks are permit only.
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Aug 21, 2016 11:28:21 GMT -8
Post by mothman27 on Aug 21, 2016 11:28:21 GMT -8
Back home again, basically got one white peacock and several gulf fritilaries. I went farther inland to a park just to be told no collecting allowed. I almost got a cloudless sulfur, they are such fast fliers. Saw four but couldn't manage to get even one. The only one I ever caught was here in Whitley Co., IN a few years ago. I have never seen another here or near this area. I also found two more Phaenus sp.(all females) What species live in Florida?
Tim
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Aug 21, 2016 16:31:17 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 16:31:17 GMT -8
I collected 3 Phoebis sennae today. I actually caught more than that but I let a few fly due to damage. I'm using a custom made 6 foot net with a 18" hoop so it helps with the fast fliers.
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Aug 21, 2016 20:24:19 GMT -8
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Post by Paul K on Aug 21, 2016 20:24:19 GMT -8
I collected 3 Phoebis sennae today. I actually caught more than that but I let a few fly due to damage. I'm using a custom made 6 foot net with a 18" hoop so it helps with the fast fliers. I used to use 15" , but now I go large: 26" net and 6.5' handle. It is absolutely amazing. When I use my collapsable 12" feels like a toy for kids now.
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Aug 22, 2016 1:19:39 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 1:19:39 GMT -8
Now that's a net!
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Aug 22, 2016 4:59:15 GMT -8
Post by mothman27 on Aug 22, 2016 4:59:15 GMT -8
I collected 3 Phoebis sennae today. I actually caught more than that but I let a few fly due to damage. I'm using a custom made 6 foot net with a 18" hoop so it helps with the fast fliers. I used to use 15" , but now I go large: 26" net and 6.5' handle. It is absolutely amazing. When I use my collapsable 12" feels like a toy for kids now. Did you make it or where did you get it?
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Aug 22, 2016 7:23:11 GMT -8
Post by Paul K on Aug 22, 2016 7:23:11 GMT -8
I used to use 15" , but now I go large: 26" net and 6.5' handle. It is absolutely amazing. When I use my collapsable 12" feels like a toy for kids now. Did you make it or where did you get it? Paradox company in Poland. They have a website you could take a look at the equipment they sell. I also use their drawers as they are European standard sizes, good quality and much cheaper than Bioquip which by the way charges way too much for shipping and I found their drawers not air tight good enough.
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Aug 22, 2016 11:10:24 GMT -8
Post by 58chevy on Aug 22, 2016 11:10:24 GMT -8
I've had no problem catching P. sennae with a standard 15" Bioquip net. They are fast fliers, but they will land on flowers if you are patient. They like to follow treelines and they will eventually return if you miss them the first time.
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Aug 22, 2016 12:48:44 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 12:48:44 GMT -8
My net is a creation of my own. It's telescopic. The handle is made of two 3ft fiberglass poles. The base cap and the hoop connection was machined out of high grade aluminum by a buddy of mine. Cost me a case of bud light! The net is one of bioquips green 18" bags. Easily fits in the back of my truck when collapsed
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Florida
Sept 13, 2016 21:15:52 GMT -8
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Post by entoman on Sept 13, 2016 21:15:52 GMT -8
Most of my collecting experience comes from South Florida but I'd suspect you should also be able to find Phoebis agarithe a P. philae. You're too far North for Eumaeaus atala but probably are within range for Atlides halesus. I have caught Limenitis archippus pretty close to the coast before. Florida's viceroys tend to favor mimicking Danaus gilippus rather than D. plexippus so you can get an interesting regional variation if you find one.
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Post by mothman27 on Oct 3, 2016 5:49:39 GMT -8
ID?
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Florida
Oct 5, 2016 11:00:44 GMT -8
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Post by joee30 on Oct 5, 2016 11:00:44 GMT -8
Looks like Phaneus sp. I'm guessing vindex, but igneus is down there too.
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Oct 5, 2016 16:43:04 GMT -8
Post by bandrow on Oct 5, 2016 16:43:04 GMT -8
Greetings,
These all look like Phanaeus igneus to me. The elytra intervals are smooth in igneus and roughened (although shiny green) in P. vindex. Phaneus igneus is variable in color, as your specimens show - from dark purplish, to dark green to bright green and reddish on the pronotum. Phanaeus vindex is more consistently colored with metallic green elytra and a reddish pronotum with golden highlights.
Cheers! Bandrow
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