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Post by bluemoth on Jul 17, 2015 11:02:42 GMT -8
Some of you all ready know I have been rescuing ingered Monarch Butterflies for the past 14 years at a winter roost site. I have heard of this super glue type stuff that is used as a liquid bandage on pet spiders. I might be able to use this on butterflies I have not been able to save in past years. Dos any one know of this and ware to get it? Are there any web sites that sell other madicins and first aid products for pet insects? Thanks for any help.
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Post by bichos on Jul 17, 2015 19:46:15 GMT -8
Lol
Spider peeps probably just use a small amount of normal super glu. Ive heard of this yes. They can stop bleeding or repair limbs.
Altho... i use a special 'coral safe' glue which has a thicker consistency. Maybe its chemically different as to not release toxins into water, thus making it coral safe. I use it to glue corals onto rock and can be applied underwater.
You should just try a brand of glue which is very 'thin' or whith a 'runny' consistency.
On the other hand. Have you considered Darwin's theory of Evolution? Survival of the fittest?
And what you might be doing to the vast gene pool?
Are you finding more damaged Monarchs with each and every year?
Nature's cruel ways are wickedly effective. Its like having to be cruel in order to achieve lasting kindness.
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Post by bluemoth on Jul 24, 2015 11:46:07 GMT -8
Thank you Bichos for your sugestion. I did try regular super glue, after finding out that it was very simaler to surgical super, glue on one butterfly but was worried it might have caused it pain instead of help it. So never used it again. I heard about a kind of liquid bandage that has an antobiotc in it and slowly decomeposes after use. I had to put 48 butterflies to sleep in the freezer because of brocken abdomens caused by birds in winter 2013. It hurts a lot to have to do that. Yes nature is cruel, but you could say the same thing about an eagle with a broken wing. Would you really leave it to sufer a horible fate in terreble pain? Or would you try to save it? Butterflies are no difforent than an eagle or any other creature in truble. By the way the Monarch population has been decreasing with attemps by orginizations to get them listed as indangered. They need all the help they can get.
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Post by myotis on Jul 24, 2015 12:01:54 GMT -8
for wings, try clear nail polish. it was advised to me and I've used it with great results.
Where I work we have tissue/ skin glues, I forget the name but each major medical company makes their own. I have also used that on butterflies with great results.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 9:28:51 GMT -8
Bluemoth,
Rescuing monarchs is a commendable effort and hopefully gives you a sense of accomplishment. They are long lived butterflies and many could use a caring hand. I am surrounded by state parks and thankfully live in an area that is relatively untouched by man. It’s almost impossible to go outside without encountering a monarch. It would be easy for somebody living in a metro area to think they are becoming endangered, and I believe the hype around this particular species is fueled by a number of factors which don’t need to be recited here.
Nature is indeed cruel, and we are getting to a point where a utopian future is plausible. That being said, if you were starving to death you would eat the eagle and use a monarch for garnish.
Being that most of us are living in the upper echelons of Maslow’s’ Hierarchy of Needs, there is no excuse not to be as humane as possible when dealing with any form of life. For large beetles it is especially difficult to humanely put them to sleep, and some people inject poison into the mouth, which I have a hard time agreeing with. Most of my collected specimens go straight into the freezer if at all possible, but a lot of the chemicals normally used in killing jars work fast.
For those really wanting to make a difference, buy a 20lb sack of milkweed seed and keep some on your person wherever you go. Anytime you see an open patch of ground, drop some. At the very least, it will keep the local spray techs busy. I will leave you with this animation.
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