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Post by modjojojo on May 30, 2015 12:25:45 GMT -8
Here it is.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 12:40:36 GMT -8
How do you get them out? Do you have to reach through the same opening that the leps enter??
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Post by modjojojo on May 30, 2015 12:51:46 GMT -8
Yes, I kill them by thorax pressure through the net. After, it is a little bit dangerous, but you manage with your finger or a forceps to take it back when it reaches the bottom. The only problem with these IKEA traps is that the net is quite tough and sometime butterflies may be "used" a little !
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 14:22:27 GMT -8
That is a ingenious way to collect
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Post by jshuey on May 30, 2015 15:03:45 GMT -8
I bet not! Just one trap. I would take at least 3 if I had the chance to go to Africa. Believe me, I seriously considered bringing a number with me... but we're making a permanent move and space is a premium when you need to fit your entire life into a total of 6 bags. The beauty of traps likes these Ikea things, is that they are very light weight and small to pack away. BioQuip sells a lightweight trap as well – and I purchased a bunch of Bug Dorms traps a few years ago. The key for me is light-weight design and small size when you are trying to pack a bunch of these into your luggage. (both of these require that you make the cone opening larger to collect anything Prepona or Charaxes sized - but it's not that hard to do. You can see how I did this at insectnet.proboards.com/thread/5839/belize-2014). John
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Post by modjojojo on May 30, 2015 15:44:42 GMT -8
Hi John, thanks for the link to the topic. the cone trap I was talking about are from BugDorms. I have seen other lepidopterist using it and they captured agrias and preopona with. Do you think the cone opening must be opened for these species ? I also want to put some at ground level for bigger butterflies like Dynastor and Caligo so it seems that they won't enter these traps...
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Post by jshuey on May 31, 2015 5:55:09 GMT -8
Hi Mohamed,
When my traps came – they had 3 or 4 inch openings in the cone. I don’t see how any big butterfly would enter. I cut the cone down and sewed a plastic band into the larger opening for support (I used a 16 inch zip tie for the plastic).
I’ve watched Agrias, and they don’t like to go to the bait pan. I think if you lowered it as far as possible, that might help. Only 1 Agrias has been traped in Belize the rest have all been captured at bait with a net. Caligo are hit and miss as well with the bug dorm traps – I don’t know why for sure. But I always run the bait high in the trap with the “curtain pulled down” around the bait. Perhaps thy simply do not like to fly up to get to the bait?
John
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 13:58:01 GMT -8
Hi John
I am curious if you have ever caught Cyllopsis gemma in a bait trap. I have collected Megisto in it but, not Cyllopsis. I know I have them here because I net captured some last year.
Joe
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Post by jshuey on May 31, 2015 16:06:14 GMT -8
Hi John I am curious if you have ever caught Cyllopsis gemma in a bait trap. I have collected Megisto in it but, not Cyllopsis. I know I have them here because I net captured some last year. Joe Yes. Here in Indiana I don't collect much. But I have picked this up in a trap. In Belize, you also get C.gemma pretty regularly in pine forest and savanna and about the only way you see them is inside a trap. John
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 16:30:56 GMT -8
They are hard to see on the wing aren't they. Lepidoptera stealth technology!
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Post by jshuey on Jun 1, 2015 8:31:46 GMT -8
They are hard to see on the wing aren't they. Lepidoptera stealth technology! The bug I've never seen outside a trap in Indiana is Enodia creola. I collected a pair of these once by setting traps for Catocola with John Peacock. By the time we checked them the next day, we had a bunch of nice Catocala, many Enodia anthedon, and a pair of E creola. I've been back to that spot sense then a few times with nets and traps, but no luck. This is a great little spot, owned by a zillionaire, who has indicated that the land (about 3,000 acres) will be gifted to TNC as part of their estate. It will make a wonderful addition to our network of conservation lands - almost doubling what we will have conserved at this site. John
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 13:44:59 GMT -8
That is great that 3000 acres will be habitat someday!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 12:33:15 GMT -8
After a few slow days of very little in the trap it finally warmed up today and I came home to find a perfect Nymphalis antiopa in my trap. I usually only see a couple a year.
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Post by modjojojo on Jun 3, 2015 16:54:50 GMT -8
Congratultions ! And now incresing the numbers of traps !
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 17:42:50 GMT -8
Thanks. I hope to get more of them.
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