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Post by lordpandarus on Jan 8, 2015 19:29:25 GMT -8
Here's an update on a P. avellaneda I set 5 years ago. The orange areas of the hind wings are now red. I think I posted a pic 2 years post-set but it seems more obvious now (I used the same camera and did not re-touch the photos) This might explain why old specimens in books are so red Fresh vs now Attachments:
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Post by lordpandarus on Jan 8, 2015 20:06:30 GMT -8
And here's a 30+ years old specimen (same photographic conditions) Attachments:
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Post by lordpandarus on Jan 8, 2015 20:27:14 GMT -8
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Post by cabintom on Jan 8, 2015 20:33:52 GMT -8
Interesting observation!
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Post by Zacatak on Jan 9, 2015 0:19:55 GMT -8
I was told once that the reddish specimens of P. Avellaneda were a subspecies that became extinct so long ago, and now they are a rarity. Perhaps the darkening over time is the reason for these extreme red patches, rather than some rare gene line that died out as I was informed. I have a male that I have seen a slight change in the time I have had him change to a more intense red than when I first received him.
Zac
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Post by lordpandarus on Jan 9, 2015 1:25:02 GMT -8
As far as I know I'm the first to take pictures over time, but there's no question that it used to be light orange and now it's red, and looks closer the the super old specimen I have
Some have said it could be chemicals in the food plant that makes some specimens redder
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Post by lordpandarus on Jan 9, 2015 1:38:21 GMT -8
Here's an overlap picture Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 17:05:54 GMT -8
One could say it ages like a fine wine  |
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Post by laurie1 on Jan 9, 2015 23:14:07 GMT -8
Amen Brother Cacicus!  |
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Post by lordpandarus on Jan 11, 2015 17:31:22 GMT -8
I haven't noticed color changes with other Phoebis species that have orange bands like P. philea.
Also maybe the extent of the reddening depends on how deep the orange color was when the specimen was alive (which is probably variable)
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Post by morpho45 on Jan 15, 2015 1:04:34 GMT -8
"Buy my item it's a rare red form !!".... LOL
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Post by jaume on Jan 27, 2015 14:37:02 GMT -8
Yes, the colour changes..... fresh specimens are not so red. Just a look to this old pair I have in my collection and collected in 1921, almost 100 years ago !!! JAUME  |
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