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Post by wollastoni on Oct 6, 2014 1:31:01 GMT -8
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Post by nomad on Oct 6, 2014 2:56:31 GMT -8
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Post by bichos on Oct 7, 2014 1:46:40 GMT -8
Lol, there are various versions to the making of the golden birdwing.
25000 wow, if only I bought one when they were a couple thousand a pair...
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Post by agriaslover on Oct 7, 2014 4:17:19 GMT -8
times changes very quick;
I bought my alexandrae pair for 60 AUD from Ray Straatmann and payed for my wonderful Papilio elephenor 3 DM which is 1,5 Euro........And remember our friend John Kamps wrote in this forum that one elephenor was sold in Japan for 43000 USD.
For your information:the report of the breeding from Mrs. Silke Weyland from Cairns (she did the breeding) I got from her and gave it to the McGuire Center for Lepidoptera Research and Biodiversity in Gainesville/Florida. And one other thing: She did the breeding for butterfly houses. She had one morning a white female in her breeding house and with this female she continued to breed a little number of this Mutations.Then she killed all the breeding material of the Golden euphorions , because too many thiefs arround her house and she was not able to leave the house or sleep quite.
So it was not a selection of males with many Goldspots to breed with it, it was a mutation and she say to me :" It was a gift of God for me"
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Post by nomad on Oct 7, 2014 9:04:25 GMT -8
It appears Mrs Weyland bred the Golden euphorion in 1993. I have heard different accounts of how many Mrs Weyland bred including the intermediates, these range from 40-70 pairs. I was surprised there was that many, how many she bred of the true golden male would be interesting to know.
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Post by lordpandarus on Oct 7, 2014 19:04:33 GMT -8
it would look nicer without the watermarks on the picture
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Post by bichos on Oct 8, 2014 6:46:45 GMT -8
it would look nicer without the watermarks on the picture Water marks? Looks A1 to me... |
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Post by cabintom on Oct 8, 2014 8:17:14 GMT -8
it would look nicer without the watermarks on the picture Water marks? Looks A1 to me... He most likely means the writing on the picture, placed there to prevent people from using the image for other purposes without having obtained permission. |
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Post by nomad on Oct 8, 2014 9:20:37 GMT -8
it would look nicer without the watermarks on the picture Click on the link, I provided and you can see the same aberration, without the writing  |
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Post by lordpandarus on Oct 8, 2014 23:48:12 GMT -8
Water marks? Looks A1 to me... He most likely means the writing on the picture, placed there to prevent people from using the image for other purposes without having obtained permission. yes. I look at a lot of butterfly websites and ebay and I've only seen some sellers "borrow" a picture a few times to show what it looks like spread. It's a rare occurrence and not worth ruining your photos for everyone else looking at them. Nothing would turn me off more than bidding on a specimen on ebay with large copyright letters on it (and possibly hiding flaws) and I've never bid on anything at insects-more probably because of this |
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Post by wollastoni on Oct 8, 2014 23:56:27 GMT -8
insects-more is one of the best insect sellers on Earth, you should give him a try my Lord.
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Post by nomad on Oct 9, 2014 0:02:22 GMT -8
I guess Chirstoph Zoller does this because he specializes in a lot of rare butterflies and it stops potential scammers from advertising his insects. He runs a excellent butterfly web-shop. I guess if your serious about buying his rare insects, you are not going to worry about logos, as they will not come with the butterfly you are buying.  |
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Post by africaone on Oct 9, 2014 2:01:23 GMT -8
I guess Chirstoph Zoller does this because he specializes in a lot of rare butterflies and it stops potential scammers from advertising his insects. He runs a excellent butterfly web-shop. I guess if your serious about buying his rare insects, you are not going to worry about logos, as they will not come with the butterfly you are buying. lol .. I imagine a new kind of seller providing his stuff tattooed with his logo  |
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Post by bichos on Oct 9, 2014 3:45:43 GMT -8
Water marks? Looks A1 to me... He most likely means the writing on the picture, placed there to prevent people from using the image for other purposes without having obtained permission. I see, thanks for clarifying that. |
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Post by jackblack on Oct 13, 2014 0:57:54 GMT -8
a lot has been written about stunning specimens of golden birdwings , there was another breeder involved though a guy and it was a wild caught female aberrant with lots of white markings they were bred from .
The line was killed off to maintain a high price , not thieves lurking about.
I bought some of these specimens for my friend in France , not pure gold but with big patches of gold in forewings, so they were advertised .When my friend got them he was most disappointed in the specimens small gold spots only and sent them back to me .
I took them back to the breeder and got a refund .
wild birdwings are protected in australia , therefore several stories have eventuated.
someone should be able line breed birdwings like this though as some amazing colour forms of P.muelleri coming out these days from Japan.
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