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Post by martina on May 11, 2014 5:35:19 GMT -8
Hi all.
I am back with the paradisea tail dropping problem.
I have tryied 2 months on setting board - as sugested - and that seems to make no difference - tail do drop about the same, as with ones taken off the boards after 4 weeks.
Have also tried to take them off the board upside down, pin them into verticaly standing case, lid it, and the hole case was kept upside down. The tails did bent, exactly same, exept in this case upwards :-D
Another thing I tried (as sugested somewhere on this forum) was partially rehydrating, little resetting (two needed little reset, I would not do this only to try, if it sorts the tails) - a month on the board - the same result again.
I also put little cards in a case under the tails fotr two months - they droped again.
The humidity is less then 50%, all the time.
But I still see many pictures of paradisea with straight tails.................
Any more advices, ideas?
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Post by ash on May 11, 2014 16:32:21 GMT -8
Hi all. I am back with the paradisea tail dropping problem. I have tryied 2 months on setting board - as sugested - and that seems to make no difference - tail do drop about the same, as with ones taken off the boards after 4 weeks. Have also tried to take them off the board upside down, pin them into verticaly standing case, lid it, and the hole case was kept upside down. The tails did bent, exactly same, exept in this case upwards :-D Another thing I tried (as sugested somewhere on this forum) was partially rehydrating, little resetting (two needed little reset, I would not do this only to try, if it sorts the tails) - a month on the board - the same result again. I also put little cards in a case under the tails fotr two months - they droped again. The humidity is less then 50%, all the time. But I still see many pictures of paradisea with straight tails................. Any more advices, ideas? Maybe put viagra in the relaxing fluid in future? Don't think they'll droop after that. |
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Post by cabintom on May 12, 2014 9:47:26 GMT -8
I also put little cards in a case under the tails fotr two months - they droped again. I had thought the idea was for the cards to stay under the tails permanently. I could be wrong. |
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Post by nomad on May 12, 2014 11:32:53 GMT -8
I am afraid I have seen some lovely straight paradisea tails, but they will all lower when taken off the boards. As long as you do not get a curl, you may have to be content, can you show images of your paradisea specimens.
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Post by Chris Grinter on May 12, 2014 12:43:50 GMT -8
As I mentioned before, the only paradisea with straight tails I've seen have cards under them permanently.
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Post by cabintom on May 12, 2014 13:01:45 GMT -8
But I still see many pictures of paradisea with straight tails................. I'd be curious to see some of these pictures. Do you have links to them? |
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Post by dertodesking on May 12, 2014 14:32:47 GMT -8
But I still see many pictures of paradisea with straight tails................. I'd be curious to see some of these pictures. Do you have links to them? Tom, Tony Nagypal's excellent website (at has a host of wonderful paradesia pictures (among others)...some have curved tails...some have straight tails... Simon |
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Post by lordpandarus on May 13, 2014 0:34:02 GMT -8
it's probably impossible for pinned specimens to have straight tails. In a Riker mount they'd stay flat
If you look closely, wings of all pinned specimens droop or curl up slightly overtime. The tails of this species are so thin the effect is pronounced
Ambient room humidity is the cause I think...unless you can maintain a it always under 20% or something
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Post by timmsyrj on May 13, 2014 1:19:32 GMT -8
This is how I store my paradisea in my drawers..   Works for me. Rich |
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Post by timmsyrj on May 13, 2014 1:32:33 GMT -8
Alternatively if you position the pair with the male above the female ( where the tithonus male is) with his abdomen between the females antennae, his tails would be on the females wings and not drop removing the need for cardboard.
Rich
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Post by bichos on May 13, 2014 4:42:55 GMT -8
Do we know the cause of the curl?
Is it humidity? As suggested above or is it static electricity?
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Post by timmsyrj on May 13, 2014 6:22:43 GMT -8
All my specimens are housed in cabinets in the same room but I've only experienced this curling with paradisea, nothing else, not even Atrophaneura coon, neptunus etc or even any lamproptera specimens.
Rich
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