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Post by jamesd on Jan 20, 2014 21:31:15 GMT -8
Hi all. I'm quite confused about the conservation laws of Australian butterflies. To my understanding Australian Ornithoptera are all listed as CITES II (so export requires a permit), and besides O. richmondia, Australian butterflies don't seem to have IUCN listings. However, neither of these assessments directly affect the legality of collecting a particular species in Australia (correct?). What I'd like to know is which species, according to Australian law, may be captured from the wild. I have found this source from 2002, although it's unclear whether it's just an assessment or actually a revision of Australian law. (p. 38 - most species are of 'No Conservation Significance') Basically, I'm lost. Does anyone know for sure which butterflies cannot be captured legally in Australia? James |
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Post by jamesd on Jan 22, 2014 5:22:46 GMT -8
After searching the internet thoroughly, I eventually answered my own question with a book from 2011. For any other Australians/collectors in Australia, the listing is here (see p. 37). From what I've read it appears as though the Australian (particularly Queensland) legislation has been criticised as being too liberal with giving protection to un-needing species, and has since unlisted some. |
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Post by exoticimports on Feb 3, 2014 21:40:11 GMT -8
Australia (the government)is rabid about keeping their animals to themselves. God forbid you take the last one of something. Local collectors can and do collect, but export permits are tough to obtain. Don't bother to "drop in" and hope you get a permit, and if you import or export anything (including honey) expect a very serious fine. Australia takes a "brick wall" mentality to import/export. If you want something from Australia, it's cheaper to buy from a licensed exporter.
Queensland is the California of Australia. Everything is illegal there, except gay parades during Mardi Gras. And, of course, QLD has major drug, gang, and gun problems. Duh. Other than the financial aspects, QLD would be considered by UN as a "failed state" like PNG. It's socialism and ignorant government control at its finest- with the results to show for it.
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Post by jackblack on Feb 26, 2014 0:51:08 GMT -8
Exotic imports , you judge our state Qld quite harshly. Have you ever tried to apply for a permit to export something from Australia ? You can`t just drop in and expect to get an export permit , you have to organise things in advance.Sure things might take a while , but same goes for a lot of countries . I think gangs ect you mention are a lot fiercer in a lot of other countries. Qld and Australia generally is a very friendly place. Anyway Australia is one of the best countries to live in and Qld would have to be one of the best states in Australia to live in . I grew up in PNG and you can`t compare the two countries at all. If you ever visit our district and want to employ me as your guide I can organise such a trip and you can go home with the specimens you collected yourself. But you can`t just go to expect to collect just anywhere like a lot of countries these days , there are some restrictions. Qld the sunshine state rules  |
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Post by exoticimports on Mar 3, 2014 7:42:00 GMT -8
Jackblack, you are completely correct and I appreciate you're not tearing me apart- I have no idea what I was thinking but what I meant was NSW! Indeed QLD is gorgeous...it's like 1950s Southern California...not like NSW which is a nanny state. I'm sure you've watched the news and know that the crime rate in Sydney has gone way up.
I appreciate the offer, perhaps in the future, sadly most of my future travel keeps me in Sydney area.
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