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Post by steve on Jan 26, 2014 23:28:50 GMT -8
Just off the boards. Apaturina erminea papuana - orange form female
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grasshopper
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Hi Steve, Perfectly set and fantastic species.
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Post by grasshopper on Jan 27, 2014 0:19:46 GMT -8
Hi Trehopr 1. Thanks very much for the positive feedback, Years of practice I suppose. I first cut the tracing paper to fit the board and pin it down from the top then pin the specimen down in the groove and pull the paper over the top of the wings. I usually start with the left forwing so I put a thick pin on the left side of the abdomen were the hindwing meets to stop the specimen spinning,I use a dentists handle with a blunt pin that is attached in the top of the tool and then start on the left forwing, I place the pin behind the main vein and carefully drag the wing up to the desired possition and place pins along the front edge of the wing and a few on the side of the wing and then do the same on the left forwing. Then start on the hindwings in the same way. This is how I was tought when I was a young fella here in Australia by my great friend Rod Eastwood. I know there are different methods of setting but it works for me, (Try it out for yourself sometime)
Cheers, Lance.
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grasshopper
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Hi Steve, Perfectly set and fantastic species.
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Post by grasshopper on Jan 27, 2014 0:30:26 GMT -8
Hi Steve, Perfectly set mate, Beautiful butterflies are they easy to relax before setting? They look like a strong insect. Cheers, Lance.
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steve
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Post by steve on Jan 27, 2014 3:43:04 GMT -8
Hi Lance Where are you? Send me a pm please. Steve
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Post by cabintom on Jan 27, 2014 4:10:09 GMT -8
I place the pin behind the main vein and carefully drag the wing up to the desired possition and place pins along the front edge of the wing and a few on the side of the wing and then do the same on the left forwing. Then start on the hindwings in the same way. This is how I've been setting my specimens. How to you avoid having the blunt pin slip from side to side and scratching the wing? (I seem to have this problem...) Tom
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Post by dertodesking on Jan 27, 2014 6:11:05 GMT -8
I've always used a (sharp) number 3 pin to move wings when setting...I find having a sharp pin helps in that the point pushes against the vein better than a blunt pin. I suppose you have to be a bit careful to make sure that you push against the vein without putting a hole in the wing but having properly relaxed (or, of course, fresh) specimens helps... ...by the way - I could never understand how (some of you guys)manage to set by moving wings with forceps..? Simon PS - I suppose the old adage of finding a technique that suits you applies here...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 8:49:49 GMT -8
I have used an entomological pin for decades with no problems in piercing the wing, as Simon said the key here is properly relaxed material instead of taking specimens out of the relaxing box too soon and having a wrestling match trying to spread stiff wings, I have 4 pairs of ornithoptera goliath on the boards, all set with an entomological pin with no damage or problems at all.
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Post by trehopr1 on Jan 27, 2014 12:09:03 GMT -8
Grasshopper, Just curious to know if you have ever collected (Zelotypia stacyi OR Xyleutes cinereus) in Australia? Would you have any pic's to share? These 2 species are much coveted by those here in America who have them in their collections. They are very seldom seem in collections here and when or if they are offered for sale (from old collections) they command very high prices (average 1200 to 1500 US $). Top Shelf examples may even exceed the average. Incredible moths from down under! !
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grasshopper
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Hi Steve, Perfectly set and fantastic species.
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Post by grasshopper on Jan 27, 2014 13:06:19 GMT -8
Hi trehopr1. I have never seen Zelotypia stacyi but I have what I think is a female Xyleutes cinereus in the freezer, I have been living in my house for 15 yrs and only ever seen this one female that landed on the outside of my garage window one night last year. Mybe you can ID it from the photos. Kind regards, Lance.
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Post by trehopr1 on Jan 27, 2014 21:09:57 GMT -8
Attachment DeletedGrasshopper, Thank you for posting your pictures of your wonderful capture of a female Xyleutes. I'm certainly no expert on Cossidae but, your specimen does bear a strong resemblance to my posted picture. My photo is of a female Xyleutes cinereus taken some years ago in an old historic collection. It's wingspread was 10 in. tip to tip ( measured it myself). And though the specimen pictured is somewhat worn it was still a magnificent species to behold for the first time!
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grasshopper
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Hi Steve, Perfectly set and fantastic species.
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Post by grasshopper on Jan 27, 2014 21:41:36 GMT -8
Hi Trehoper1, Thanks for posting the image of your specimen, I am not a moth collector so maybe I will sell this one and use the money to buy some nice butterflies. Kind regards, Lance.
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grasshopper
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Hi Steve, Perfectly set and fantastic species.
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Post by grasshopper on Jan 27, 2014 22:01:53 GMT -8
This is the last of what I have on my boards at the moment but will be setting more next week. First board is Australian specimens. Pseudodipsas cephens, Elodina Parthia, Elodina angulipennis, Hypocysta metirius. Second is P.maakii spring forms from Japan Third is Hetronympha mirifica females Forth is Papilio inopinatus pair still need work attaching the antennae.
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Post by timmsyrj on Feb 15, 2014 2:27:21 GMT -8
Just off the boards.. Female zagreus chrysoxanthus Female zagreus batesi Male neyi A little repair needed but I'm well happy with these beauties.. Rich
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Post by Adam Cotton on Feb 15, 2014 9:45:56 GMT -8
Rich,
Very nice indeed! Personally I wouldn't bother repairing them, they look fine as they are.
Adam.
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