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Post by lepidofrance on Jul 12, 2012 14:30:41 GMT -8
On the former photo, one can see that the Hmong Lady is hunting M. telemachus : the orange side is oriented toward trees and canopy ; we see only the blue face. On this new photo, see that the blue lure is also excellent to take close pictures. Even in country where butterfly collecting is prohibited but not phographying wildlife. Attachments:
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Post by Christof on Jul 12, 2012 15:53:58 GMT -8
isn't it nice how these threads develop into something different sometimes. I have experience with a similar lure for Idea butterflies in SE Asia. Just swinging a piece of white paper can bring Idea from the top of the trees down to the ground. BTW in Taiwan they call them in Chinese 'stupid white butterflies' for exactly this reason.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 0:13:14 GMT -8
I could only dream of it, when you have been light trapping in Northern England like I did last night you realise how piss poor our native fauna is.
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Post by lepidofrance on Jul 13, 2012 1:52:53 GMT -8
As already told on this forum, a red lure works very efficiently for Troides and Ornithoptera . See : www.lepido-france.fr/2008/07/chiffon-rouge/A white lure is also effective for some Parnassinae species. Collecting Idea species (Sabah, Sulawesi), I did not use lure since these butterflies are not difficult to catch. It is rather to be able to say: "I've caught enough, now I stop to catch" !!! Attachments:
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Post by Zacatak on Jul 13, 2012 3:49:13 GMT -8
i hear ya dunc01226, here in New Zealand, i only see 5 species of butterflies during a summer:( we only have 20 species... but most of them are found up in the mountains. however, i have been lucky enough to have been to Brazil last year, so im glad i had the experience to catch morpho's etc.. i dont think this counts, but this is what i have just pulled off the setting board:) ornithoptera tithonus misresiana pair Attachments:
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Post by Zacatak on Jul 13, 2012 3:59:49 GMT -8
some helicon butterflies i caught in sao paulo, brazil believe it or not caught right in the middle of the huge city in a local park next to my hotel i stayed at haha. i went out of the city for a few days into the rainforest and caught at least 20 more different species. Attachments:
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Post by Zacatak on Jul 13, 2012 4:02:26 GMT -8
second photo... Attachments:
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Post by lepidofrance on Jul 13, 2012 4:16:01 GMT -8
Ornithoptera tithonus misresiana From Arfak Mountains ?
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Post by lepidofrance on Jul 13, 2012 4:54:03 GMT -8
"here in New Zealand, i only see 5 species of butterflies during a summer: we only have 20 species... but most of them are found up in the mountains"
One month ago, in our Association we had a lecture (with many photos) on the New Zealand butterfly fauna given by one of our member who is from NZ.
Sure, it's about two dozens butterflies species, not more ... Anyway, as far I remember what was told, it's a very interesting and peculiar fauna since it had been isolated from other parts of the World since a very long time. Moths from NZ are too very interesting.
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Post by Christof on Jul 13, 2012 13:28:24 GMT -8
some helicon butterflies i caught in sao paulo, brazil believe it or not caught right in the middle of the huge city in a local park next to my hotel i stayed at haha. i went out of the city for a few days into the rainforest and caught at least 20 more different species. I live in Sao Paulo and I can confirm that you can see different butterflies inside the city (especially an a huge park called Parque Ibirapuera). But one advice: be very careful with catching anything alive in Brazil. It is strictly forbidden and you will be imprisoned once the police catches you. This is no joke and you can only imagine how a Brazilian prison looks from the inside!
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Post by Zacatak on Jul 13, 2012 19:45:24 GMT -8
Ornithoptera tithonus misresiana From Arfak Mountains ?
yes correct, lovely A1 pair too.
yes quite right too that nz has very interesting and peculiar fauna since it had been isolated from other parts of the World. we really do have some strange creatures here in nz. like our national icon, the kiwi bird. has feathers that are more like hair then actual feathers. its the only bird in the world to have its nostrils at the end of its beak, rather then on its head. and it only comes out at night. our lizard the tuatara is born with 3 eyes. but the 3rd eye doesn't become anything and disappears under the skin as they grow to be adults.
we have some really exotic butterflies that are both beautiful and rare, i remember posting some pictures in the: show your favorite specimen section not very long ago.
and about catching the butterflies in sao paulo brazil - i had no idea! i thought that was only a law for trying to get them out of the country. i had no idea you could end up in jail for catching butterflies from brazil, i guess i was thinking, well thay are not on cites.... its kind of stupid considering how many butterflies there are there. and why the Brazilian government would be concerned with people catching insects when they have so many other problems with human society in general i don't know.. it kind of begs the question do locals actually go to prison for touching them too?
"inmate turns to inmate: what are you in here for? "drug possession..what about you?" "Ah i touched a butterfly"
haha when i was over there i was all over the place catching them...without even knowing i could be locked up for it. other then also looking to people childish for catching such normal things people would pass by in their daily lives. its kind of funny how you take for granted what you have.. but get someone else, and they would catch a butterfly like it was a gold nugget you found.
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Post by Christof on Jul 14, 2012 5:13:21 GMT -8
I really don't know whether you'll get locked up in the end, but I'd rather not find out. And I live here; they might go easier on you as you were there as a tourist. I mean in Sao Paulo; if they catch you collecting butterflies in Amazonia you are definitely in trouble!
One of the common jokes here goes something like that: When you are in the forest and you see a guy with a monkey, shoot the guy. If you shoot the monkey you will be in prison much longer!
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Post by lepidofrance on Jul 14, 2012 13:21:14 GMT -8
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